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August 27, 2010

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Ed Moed

Very interesting, Bob.

Still doesn't mean it's an employer-friendly country.

I hate to stereotype, but Germans are unbelievably productive. I think they've clearly hit the mark on a number of fronts to come out of this miserable economy now. I just woudn't recommend that any company open up shop there. Trade is great (one key area of growth). But, if you start a new company in Germany, the joke is that you own those employees salaries for life...

Bob Reed

Agreed, Ed. But it could be argued that German productivity comes from the benefits its workers receive.

Steve

While from what you write, and from what I've heard (several of our friends are German ex-pats, who've told us about German labor laws and employment) Germany does seem to have gone too far, perhaps we could learn *something* from them. After all, how much productivity and institutional knowledge is lost because the employment climate in the U.S. has become one of "free agency" for all employees. Sure, companies have the freedom to hire and fire at will--a freedom they often abuse--but the flip side is that to protect themselves, employees (at least the smart ones) practice CYA corporate politics, are always looking for the next opportunity, are constantly networking, and can't afford to invest too much of themselves or their energy in a job that could disappear without warning. I suspect that the price U.S. employers pay for their near-absolute hiring and firing freedom is a less loyal, experienced, and productive workforce.

So while not advocating anything like Germany's level of employee protection, perhaps the pendulum in the U.S. has swung too far the other way.

Ed Moed

Yeah. We need to go back to the 50s or maybe even the good parts of Mad Men’s early 60s. Back then, loyalty was in abundance and there were many who started a career with a company after college and 40+ years later, retired with that same company.

Ed Moed

It could, Bob. But, explain this then....what the hell happened to France?

Bob Reed

Greater minds than ours will have to explain that one, Ed.

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